
The Data Fix
The Data Fix is a podcast hosted by critical media studies scholar Mél Hogan, who is based in Canada. Through conversations with scholars, thinkers, and feelers, it explores what it means to live in a world increasingly shaped by data. Episodes focus on the rise of “digital humans,” including chatbots, holograms, deepfakes, AI-generated images and videos, and technologies that attempt to revive the dead. The conversations are minimally edited and serve as an archive of collective thinking around the Data Fix project. More details and show notes are available at thedatafix.net.
Episodes

Trust, with Kate Kaye
Please treat yourself to the Trust Control podcast series with journalist Kate Kaye, who I get to be in conversation with for this episode of The Data Fix. We unpack what trust means to researchers, scientists. and entrepreneurs, especially in relation to AI, automation, and the media. We'll give you trust issues!Recorded October 5, 2026. Released October 12, 2026.Trust Controlhttps://open.spo

Care, with (Jennifer) Jill Fellows
This episode is about care, attentiveness and the skill of being in relationship(s). (Jennifer) Jill Fellows and I discuss the rise of AI intimacy and the programmed sycophancy of generativeAI today, and what it reveals is that our emotional attachments to chatbots might be more about how easily we can convince ourselves of its significance than about any sophisticated technology. That said, when

Rogue, with Eryk Salvaggio
When is AI 'going rogue' and when is it just sloppy oversight by the companies designing the models? The answer won't surprise you -- probably -- but in this episode we discuss why we can both not believe the doom-hype marketing hype of AI companies and still be a bit worried about where this is all taking us. Erik Salvaggio unpacks and explains all of this better than anyone I know. Recorded Aug

Plausible, with Tracy Valcourt
Tracy Valcourt and I discuss this strange new AI phenomenon of using ads to sell both conservative veering on fascist ideology and AI production in itself, as a package. We meander through the strange worlds of advertising and AI and (re)consider the plausible. Recorded July 30, 2026. Released August 10, 2026.That white guy who can’t get a job at Tim Hortons? He’s AI | Visual investigations -- CBC

Coalition, with Kris Akin and Matthew Shaw
The Coalition for Responsible Data Center Development co-released the Data Center Opposition Report in April 2026, which we discuss in this episode with Kris Akin and Matthew Shaw. Recorded June 23, 2026. Released July 27, 2026. Coalition for Responsible Data Center DevelopmentOur Research — Coalition for Responsible Data Center DevelopmentData Center Opposition Report — Coalition for Responsible

Whispers, with Nicole Sugarman, Shawmar Pitts, Steph Jordan, Livia Garofalo, Cella Sum, and Linda Huber
This episode was a recap of an event called How to Stop a Data Center that took place at Swathmore College in April 2026. I was able to listen via Zoom and then later asked available panelists to come on the podcast to discuss community-based activism against AI data centers. Recorded June 17, 2026. Released July 13, 2026. Fight Data Centershttps://www.kairosfellows.org/fightdatacentersFor more in

Monstrosities, with Rania Masri, Simon Enoch, Adam Wilkins, Lauren Stephens Smith, Sophie Toupin, Vijay Kolinjivadi, and Christiane Bailey
This episode is a recording of an event that took place at Concordia University: So an AI Data Centre is coming to your community? Don't panic! A roundtable on strategies for building community power. We discuss tactics and strategies for pushing back against Big Tech and their AI data centers -- seen as monstrosities by those who know how much humanity stands to lose by and through AI logics and

Fiction, with Teresa Heffernan
This episode covers the role of fiction -- literal readings and total misreadings of sci-fi -- in how they shape tech CEOs ideas about the future. Teresa Hefffernan is incredible at communicating the problems with AI today. Please listen to the podcast/lecture linked below, too, for more. Recorded June 10, 2026. Released June 15, 2026.CBC Ideas Literature Versus the AI Industryhttps://www.cbc.ca/l

Rage, with Valerie Veatch
This episode is with the amazing Valerie Veatch, director of Ghost in the Machine -- a documentary that serves as a critical takedown of "AI". It's the best argument against "AI" that I've seen, highlighting the voices of scholars across various academic disciplines. You can watch the film via the link below and listen to the director explain her process and ideas for continuing the conversation..

Strategies, with Sonja Solomun
In this episode, in front of a live audience at Carleton University for their "The Ends of AI: A symposium on technopolitics and intellectual culture", I spoke about strategies and outlooks on environment justice with policy expert, Sonja Solomun. Recorded Apr 2, 2026. Released May 11, 2026.The end of accountability: How autonomous AI could supercharge climate disinformationhttps://www.nationalobs

Simulation, with Dan McQuillan
In this episode with Dan McQuillan, we discussed the current AI moment as/within the polycrisis, and also as a temporary period between illusion and simulation. Dan proposes a series of countermeasures to AI under the umbrella of 'decomputing'. We also spend some time talking about illusion, shame, authenticity, and a slew of other contradictions that are important to note in relation to this AI m
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Offloading, with [Anonymous]
For this episode, I interviewed someone who asked to be made anonymous (and voice altered) in order to openly discuss their complicated feelings of regularly offloading work tasks to an AI chatbot. Is there any shame is using AI? Isn’t everyone doing it? Why would people pretend not to? Does it change you? Is it bad for the brain? Recorded Mar 22, 2026. Released Apr 13, 2026.How I Realized AI Was

Mundane, with Wendy H. Wong
In this episode, Wendy H. Wong explains the human rights implications of datafication. We talk about how data become valuable, sticky data, big tech’s encroachment on governance, our faces/selves as datapoints, and how the mundane underlies and explains so much of how data collection happens in the first place. Recorded Mar 20, 2026. Released Mar 30, 2026.Wendy H. Wong We, the Data: Human Rights i

Hollowed, with Olivia Guest, Iris van Rooij and Andrea Reyes Elizondo
In this episode, Olivia Guest, Iris van Rooij and Andrea Reyes Elizondo discuss why it’s important to the overall purpose and significance of the university to resist the uncritical adoption of AI in academia. The risk of AI adoption is that it’ll hollow out the institutions first, and then society at large. Recorded Feb 27, 2026. Released March 16, 2026.Against the Uncritical Adoption of 'AI' Tec

Opposition, with Daisy Maldonado, Annie Ersinghaus & Gilberto Manzanarez
In this episode, Daisy Maldonado, Annie Ersinghaus, Gilberto Manzanarez and I discuss on-the-ground opposition to two data centers being built against the will of local residents: Project Jupiter (Oracle/Open AI) in New Mexico, and the largest data center in California -- in Imperial Valley. This conversation was part of: Powering AI from the Borderlands: Organizing Against Data Centers, faci

Enough, with Adam Becker
In this episode, Adam Becker and I talk about our AI overlords and their “philosophical” influences — mostly eugenics-based pseudoscience and bad readings of sci-fi that make tech billionaires feel like they’ve earned their billions by being the smartest people on the planet… while ruining the planet. Recorded Feb 13, 2026. Released Feb 16, 2026.More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires

Containment, with Zoë Sofoulis (Zoe Sofia) and Ingrid Richardson
Great theorists make you see the world differently forever after. This is the case with my guests for this episode, Zoë Sofoulis (Zoe Sofia) and Ingrid Richardson — brilliant scholars helping us rethink containers and containment as a feminist strategy to rework worldly narratives about what holds, filters, leaks. This conversation was a special honour for me. Recorded January 23, 2026. Relea

Friendship, with Am Johal and Matt Hern
In this first episode of 2026, I speak with Am Johal and Matt Stern, authors of the "O My Friends, There Is No Friend: The Politics of Friendship at the End of Ecology" (2025) to better understand what friendship means these days... at the "end of ecology". Is friendship political? Can an AI chatbot be a friend? Recorded Jan 16, 2026. Released Jan 19, 2026. Matt Hern, Am Johal O My Friends, There

Predictable, with José Marichal
José Marichal is exceptionally good at making the case for why we should all become algorithmic problems and also much more reflective of our engagement with social media. We are altered by recommendation algorithms -- and we should probably think now about how to renegotiate these terms? Happy holidays! Recorded Nov 27. Released Dec 22, 2025.You Must Become an Algorithmic ProblemRenegotiatin

Advocates, with Meg Rintoul and Kathryn Barnwell
In this episode I speak with friends-neighbours-advocates Meg Rintoul and Kathryn Barnwell about current plans in place to build an AI data center in Nanaimo, B-C. -- and allowing ourselves to write a new story about the future. Recorded Nov 27. Released Dec 8, 2025.'Very scary': Nanaimo neighbours have water worries about new data centrehttps://www.reddit.com/r/nanaimo/comments/1oo24s3/very_scary

Tracking, with Stefanie Felsberger
In this episode, I got to walk through a recent report called “the high stakes of tracking menstruation” with its author, Stefanie Felsberger, a sociologist of tech & gender. I cannot express enough how much there is to learn from this topic that can help us understand the bigger landscape of tech promises and harms. Recorded Oct 23, 2025. Released Nov 24, 2025.The High Stakes of Tracking Mens

Surveillance, with Justin Hendrix
In this episode, I speak with Justin Hendrix, the CEO and Editor of Tech Policy Press, a nonprofit media venture concerned with the intersection of technology and democracy. We talk about ICE (US Immigration and Customs Enforcement), surveillance, and AI. Recorded Oct 21, 2025. Released Nov 10, 2025. Republican Budget Bill Signals New Era in Federal SurveillanceDEAN JACKSON, JUSTIN

Sovereign, with Paris Marx
Host of Tech Won't Save Us and acclaimed tech critic, author, and international speaker, Paris Marx joins me for this episode where we discuss AI futures in a Canadian context: the idea of a "sovereign cloud", an "AI minister", and much more! Recorded Oct 15, 2025. Released Oct 20, 2025.Websitehttps://parismarx.com/Tech Won't Save Ushttps://techwontsave.us/Disconnecthttps://disconnect.blog/im-writ

Witnessing, with Michael Richardson
In this episode, I get to chat with the brilliant Michael Richardson on the concept of "Nonhuman Witnessing" especially in how this relates to algorithms and AI. In his book, "Nonhuman Witnessing" (Duke), he argues that a "radical rethinking of what counts as witnessing is central to building frameworks for justice in an era of endless war, ecological catastrophe, and technological capture". Recor

Dopaminergic, with Rohit Revi
Rohit Revi walks us through paranoia, care, conspiracy, capitalism, and catastrophe, in relation to technology and culture, to draw us into a deeper consideration of collective psychic resources and psychological commons. We talk about psychometry and linger on the dopaminergic. Recorded July 16, 2025. Released August 11, 2025.Great Delirium: Culture, Technology, and Paranoia in the New Age of Cat

Con, with Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna
Emily M.Bender and Alex Hanna have been leading the charge against "AI", helping us understand it for the con that it is, and how AI companies are turning to health, education, and other social realms to try to recover their costs. In this episode we discuss LLMs vs. what the AI (and AGI) con is -- who benefits, and who loses -- and much more. Recorded July 15, 2025. Released July 28, 2025.The AI

Control, with Paul Schütze
In this episode, Paul Schütze and I pick apart the inherent contradictions of “sustainable AI”, marketing language that aims to convince the public that one of the most extractive industries can be used to solve climate change. We delve into the layers of control embedded in the logics of AI, when technology becomes the fix that needs fixing. Recorded May 20, 2025. Released July 7, 2025. The

Water, with Rebecca Kilberg, Mary-Clare Bosco and Jonathan Gilmour
In this episode I speak with Rebecca Kilberg, Mary-Clare Bosco and Jonathan Gilmour who together use policy approaches to solve problems related to data center water usage and the various planetary and health outcomes that emerge from water consumption and extraction. They talk about how you get such data and what to do with it, and the importance of creating many local sites of resistance for a m

Solidarity, with Shannon Wait
In this episode, Shannon Wait — Alphabet Workers Union-CWA organizer — speaks with me about the labour conditions for data center and AI workers. We talk about contracts, sub-contracts, sub-sub-contracts, NDAs, invisible labour -- and how all of this leads to unions, solidarity, and a fight for tech workers’ rights globally. Recorded May 8, 2025. Released June 2, 2025. Interview with Shannon

Remade, with Allison Carruth
Allison Carruth and I talk about her new book which gets at some of the material infrastructure and social systems that have made the US a settler state ever obsessed with new frontiers, including space. We talk about tech imaginaries, worlds remade, and better futures — a vision that invites confronting the state of things head-on, a slower redoing, and is based on connection, love, and friendshi

Hype, with Dani Shanley and Gemma Milne
In this episode, Dani Shanley and Gemma Milne walk me through "hype" -- what it means in various technological contexts, how it works, what it is definitionally, how it feels in the body, who it serves, who it harms, and how we might need to nuance our relationship to it, especially as critical (tech) scholars. Recorded May 1, 2025. Released May 5, 2025.https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/gemma-miln

Damage, with Dustin Edwards
Dustin Edwards and I discuss the damage caused by digital infrastructure and its extractive requirements. We talk about data centers and copper mines, but more than this, we delve into the what a decolonial, feminist, anti-racist approach can look like for white settler scholars grappling with their inheritances and obligations to the landscapes and to the stories they tell themselves, as we make

Consent, with Jasmine McNealy
In this episode, I ask Jasmine McNealy about the role of consent online, from social media exchanges to the circulation of deep fakes. Who gets to define harm? Who is responsible for the damage? Does anyone have to take accountability? We also talk about surveillance, sonic privacy, and the many data trails the body leaves behind. Recorded Apr 4, 2025. Released April 14, 2025.Sonic Privacy. Y

Together, with Collin Bjork
Collin Bjork and I discuss the double (triple?) meaning of "extractive AI". Collin explains Otter.ai -- an AI powered voice-to-text transcription software, and the capitalist logics that enable it -- vs. Maori-led Te Hiku Media, based on principles of stewardship, community and collaboration. Collin also explains how rhetoric is about togetherness more than persuasion. Recorded Feb 12, 2025. Relea

Deskill, with Hagen Blix
In this episode Hagen Blix and I talk about how the fear of AI, from the non-billionaire CEO class, comes from the threat of deskilling workers. Recorded Mar 5, 2025. Released March 17, 2025.Tech Workers Can Still Fight Silicon Valley’s Overlordsby Hagen Blix and Ingeborg Glimmer https://jacobin.com/2025/02/tech-workers-silicon-valley-trump/Why We Fear AI: On the Interpretation

Unlearning, with Kane Murdoch
In this episode I speak with Kane Murdoch about the perils of contract cheating. As an integrity officer, he frames what's happening with "cheating" as an unlearning that we should all be paying attention to if we care about education. Recorded Feb 6, 2025. Released March 10, 2025.Guerilla Warfarehttps://www.guerillawarfare.net/Ellis, C., & Murdoch, K. (2024). The educational integrity enforce

Indexicality, with Roland Meyer and Gillian Rose
AI images are circulating more and more online and sometimes we can't tell the 'real' from AI-generated. But as I discuss with the inimitable Gillian Rose and Roland Meyer, we need to think about AI images beyond their indexicality, i.e. the idea that a photograph is a direct representation of the subject it captures. In this episode, we grapple with AI generators that are part of extractive, colo

Asymmetries, with Jathan Sadowski
In this episode Jathan Sadowski discusses the 'risk industry' as imagined by FIRE (finance, insurance and real estate) and the asymmetries they create. Recorded January 15, 2025. Released February 10, 2025.The Mechanic and the Luddite: A Ruthless Criticism of Technology and Capitalismhttps://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite/paperThis Machine Kills: A podcast about technology and

Lessons, with Charles Logan
Charles Logan is the go-to person to talk to about how AI is infiltrating the many layers of education, from K-12 to universities. In this conversation, we learn our lessons; we talk about what Ed Tech is, its promise and hype, and (ultimately) how to refuse it as professors and teach students to resist it as well. We also wonder about 'AI-proofing' the classroom and wether this is the way to deal

Storying, with Dillon Mahmoudi and Anthony Levenda
In this episode I speak with Dillon Mahmoudi and Anthony Levenda about the relationship (feedback loop) between data and urban planning. We focus on the idea of 'storying' data to make it compelling and to get past the inertia of data delivered as mere stats or numbers that have little resonance and don't (or no longer) move people to action, towards better living conditions. Recorded January 13,

Defining, with Ali Alkhatib
I got to speak with the brilliant Ali Alkhatib about his blog post "defining AI" -- an object, subject, metaphor, and discursive formation used amongst all of us trying to figure out how to grapple with AI's ownership, deployments, and impacts. Who gets to define AI? Is it just computer scientists? What are the stakes of having it defined only technologically? Recorded December 23, 2025. Rele

Colonialism, with Ulises A. Mejias and Nick Couldry
I start the new year with an episode on "data colonialism". I had the great pleasure of speaking with Ulises A. Mejias and Nick Couldry about our contemporary relationship to corporations, about the idea that there’s no capitalism without colonialism (and vice versa), about how human lives are being exploited these days, and about data being a cheap resource. Recorded December 16, 2024. Released J

Investigative, with Déborah López and Hadin Charbel
Such a delight speaking with Déborah López and Hadin Charbel, incredible artists-architects-scholars as investigators of future possibilities in light of climate change rapidly changing arctic (and other) landscapes. We discuss a range of art projects, from large installations to projections to speculative fiction, and how these modes and conditions can help us think and feel about alternate endin

Collaborative, with Chris Gilliard
In this episode, I spoke with Chris Gilliard (@hypervisible) about AI’s encroachment on universities and what this means for collaboration — i.e. learning, writing, thinking and feeling. This conversation puts out a warning of sorts to universities adopting AI given that, as a technology, it is built off of stolen materials, relies on extraction and colonial labour practices, is racist, misog

Regulated, with Jennifer Holt
It was a real honour and joy to speak with someone whose work has so significantly shaped my own (and many of us writing about data centers): Jennifer Holt joined me for a chat about US cloud policy. The Cloud is understood in this episode through the lens of policy, which means we grapple with who owns data, its infrastructures and our data futures. We also talked a bit about what the latest US e

Frequencies, with Trent Wintermeier
Listen to the data center's hum with your feet first... on this episode, Trent Wintermeier and I discuss what it means to absorb sound through the body and "hear" vibrations with and through your limbs and ears. We discuss what this means for folks living near data centers, especially in places imagined as kinds of sacrifice zones. Recorded Oct 9, 2024. Release Nov 11, 2024.Trent Wintermeierhttps:

Safety, with Remmelt Ellen
In this episode, I have a conversation with Remmelt Ellen from AI Safety Camp. We discuss AI safety and his 44-page book Artifical Bodies outlining AI harms from the perspective of someone really grappling with the ethics, hype, and harms of the industry and beyond. Recorded Oct 4, 2024. Released Oct 28, 2024.Artificial Bodies https://workflowy.com/s/artificial-bodies/znDloerXJaEQvKF6#/846236876b4

Deep, with Lisa Yin Han
Everyone should read Lisa Yin Han's Deepwater Alchemy! It's a stunningly well written book about how we come to value the ocean through various extractive mediations. Recorded Sept 27, 2024. Released Oct 14, 2024.Deepwater Alchemy: Extractive Mediation and the Taming of the SeafloorHow underwater mediation has transformed deep-sea spaces into resource-rich frontiershttps://www.upress.umn.edu/97815

Dancing, with Joana Chicau
Joana Chicau is a designer, researcher and coder, with a background in choreography and performance. We had a truly delightful chat about how dance can make you understand data differently. Recorded Sept 13, 2024. Released Sept 23, 2024.Websitehttps://joanachicau.com/about.html Publicationshttps://researchers.arts.ac.uk/2383-joana-chicau/publications Choreographing Youhttps://re-coding.techno

Geologica, with Siobhan Angus
It was such an honour to be in conversation with Siobhan Angus about what can only be describe as a masterpiece: her book Camera Geologica. Recorded August 8, 2024. Released Sept 9, 2024.Camera Geologica: An Elemental History of Photographyhttps://www.dukeupress.edu/camera-geologica Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Reform, with Leslie R. Shade
In this episode, I speak with my dear friend and colleague, Leslie R. Shade about the importance of media reform from an intersectional feminist political economic perspective! Recorded Aug 1. Released Aug 26, 2024.Chapter 5: From Media Reform to Data Justice: Situating Women's Rights as Human Rights from The Handbook of Gender, Communication, and Women's Human Rights Margaret Gallagher (Editor),

Territorial, with Alina Utrata
Alina Utrata and I have a conversation about billionaires conquering space for personal pleasure, in the pursuit of energy sources or minerals, or, to push forward a longtermist interplanetary movement. Alina explains how when we think about outer space as "empty", we unwittingly thinking territorially -- an incredibly valuable contribution to critical space scholarship. Recorded May 20. Released

Futures, with Lee Vinsel
I invited Lee Vinsel to discuss with me a post he wrote from a workshop on "Politics of Controlling Powerful Technologies". In this episode we discuss how futures are (imagined to be) predicted through data modelling and crunching numbers, and how various alternatives to these statistical imaginaries also come short of knowing what awaits us. Can we stand to not know? And if we don't know what the

Objective, with Lisa Messeri and M. J. Crockett
In this episode, Lisa Messeri and M. J. Crockett discuss how scientists are in danger of overlooking AI tools’ limitations, and how science is made stronger by questioning its obsession with objectivity. Recorded April 18, 2024. Released May 27, 2024.Artificial intelligence and illusions of understanding in scientific researchLisa Messeri & M. J. Crockett Nature volume 627, pages49–58 (2

Thirsty, with Shaolei Ren
In this episode, Shaolei Ren and I discuss the relationship between water and generative AI. We delve into what happens to water in the (very thirsty) data center, what it's used for, and how much fresh water the AI revolution will ask of the planet in the future, and at what costs. Big Tech doesn't yet disclose its water withdrawal or consumption, so researcher like Shaolei Ren take up the work a

Diversity, with Catherine Stinson and Sophie Vlaad
With Catherine Stinson and Sophie Vlaad, we discuss what diversity means in the context of AI -- its applications, conceptualizations, teams, institutions, networks, members, and ideals. As they ask in a recent article, "diversity" is often proposed as a solution to ethical problems in artificial intelligence (AI), but what exactly is meant by "diversity" and how it can it solve those problems?&nb

Unsustainable, with Matthew Archer
Listen to my conversation with Matthew Archer, author of Unsustainable: Measurement, Reporting, and the Limits of Corporate Sustainability. In his beautifully written book, Matthew makes a case for being highly skeptical of corporate sustainability initiatives, especially as they've become increasingly grounded in metrics of all kinds that measure just and exactly what the companies themselves det

Change, with Sireesh Gururaja, Amanda Bertsch and Clara Na
Together, Sireesh Gururaja, Amanda Bertsch and Clara Na explain the paradigm shifts in Natural Language Processing that they've noticed themselves, observed in the community, and documented through a series of interviews with NLP researchers. They share their hopes for the NLP field -- as less focused on benchmarks, and as more self-reflexive and ethically-driven -- moving forward. Recorded Jan 19

Adversarial, with Steph Maj Swanson
Steph Maj Swanson, aka Supercomposite and I discuss the spooky Loab phenomenon, generative adversarial network, negative prompts and the demons (maybe?) lurking in large datasets. Recorded Jan 19, 2024. Released March 11, 2024. What I Learned from Loab: AI as a creative adversaryThe artist behind the viral cryptid "Loab" reflects on her critical relationship to AI art toolshttps://media.ccc.de/v/3

Mirrored, with Kyriaki Goni
Kyriaki Goni - an artist with a background in social and cultural anthropology - and I start our conversation reflecting back on the lockdowns of April 2020 in Athens; what this signified, and how it shaped her art, which ultimately manifested as "The Portal or Let’s Stand Still for the Whales", which was a reflection on the tensions between the darkness of pandemic realities and the quiet re

Efficient, with Anne Pasek
Most of us researching data centers have come to rely on various figures and stats telling us how environmentally impactful the internet has become: how big is the footprint? how much energy is used? Anne Pasek and I discuss in this episode just how these things get tallied, and by whom, and to what ends. We also discuss what gets omitted in these calculations, and how a "relational footprinting"

Conflicted, with Tobias Williams
Teaching in times of generative AI is weird, and sometimes wonderful. Tobias Williams and I discuss what it means to make art and teach art at this juncture and the conflicted feelings that emerge from resisting with the tools of creation. Recorded Oct 10, 2023. Released Dec 25, 2023.Profilehttp://tobiasjwilliams.comInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/getrichnever/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/pr

Impacts, with Irene Niet
Irene Niet and I have a conversation about how researchers might consider the environmental impacts of AI in relation to their social consequences, and in relation to their impacts on democracy. Recorded Oct 16, 2023. Released Dec 11, 2023.Research profilehttps://research.tue.nl/en/persons/irene-a-nietDigital (Un)sustainability - Routledgehttps://crowdusg.net/2022/06/06/digital-unsustainabilities-

Chipified, with MC Forelle
Ever wonder about the microchips in your car? MC Forelle and I talk about the “chipification” process of cars, since the 70s and 80s, and how these processes and logics see to increased corporate control and surveillance, while making opting out and DIY tinkering more difficult. We briefly touch on subscription model for automotive features — like BMW did for its heated seats not long ago — rememb

Empathy, with Steven Gonzalez Monserrate
In this absolutely delightful hour, Steven Gonzalez, an anthropologist of data centers, walks us through various sites of ethnographic research — from places of abandonment post-climate disaster, the desert, to the suburbs. While much as been written and discussed about data centers in the last decade, nobody does it quite as thoughtfully as Steven — showing empathy and feeling in and through his

Open, with David Gray Widder
While efforts to make “AI” more “open” have gained momentum lately, it seems like both concepts are worth scrutinizing and historicizing so that we can better understand how these marketing terms become a focus (and distraction), as material conditions are downplayed. With David Gray Widder, we discuss where “ethics” are located and how “AI” workers of all kinds imagine responsibility to be someo

Chemical, with Josh Lepawsky
If you think you know anything about e-waste from what’s normally reported in the news, please have a listen to this episode with the brilliant Josh Lepawsky — it will really open up everything you thought you understood! We discuss global waste industries, shipping waste, the ideals of recycling, plastics and mining waste, and the need for collective action. And chemicals. Recorded Aug 3, 2023. R

Intimacy, with Mirabelle Jones
A truly delightful conversation with creative technologist and artist, Mirabelle Jones. Their work uses generative AI – early iterations of it – to make compelling observations about intimacy. Jone’s work is iterative, where reactions to projects invite new forms of self-reflection, and makes us wonder if we even have a ‘true’ self, if continuity is real, and what quantum alternatives might be out

Alien, with Gregory Betts
This is a fun conversation with scholar-poet Gregory Betts about communicating with aliens! How are humans on earth communicating with aliens? What technology does it require? Why? What void does it fill? And do aliens want to be in contact with us? What relationships are made possible by thinking poetically about aliens? On the episode we ponder the cultural contexts for thinking about alien life

Cycles, with Ana Valdivia
Ana Valdivia walks me through her research on the connections between data centers, AI, and mining. We discuss what it means to be a researcher looking at controversial, problematic, and difficult to access sites, and what resistance to the AI industry — which gobbles up water, minerals, land, and electricity at incredible rates — can look like. Recorded Jul 28, 2023. Released Aug 28, 2023.Rural S

Contradictions, with Melissa Gregg
Melissa Gregg and I discuss what it means to think ecologically, in, through, and with technology, at a time of perpetually new things compelling us into a sense of urgency about the climate crisis. Together we untangle the affective investments and contradictions embedded in moment of reckoning with out place in the world and on this planet. Recorded Jul 12, 2023. Released Aug 14, 2023.Keynote: T

Nuance, with Tega Brain
With Tega Brain — who, after many recommendations – I finally got to meet over Zoom, we discuss using bots to distort clicks related to climate and how the concept of ecology both informs and distorts our ideas about human-nature relationships. Art, addressing these concerns, requires a lot of nuance. Recorded May 23, 2023. Released July 24, 2023.The Battle to Control the Carbon Media Cycle, Ding

Resurrected, with Tonia Sutherland
“Resurrecting” means bringing back to life, raising from the dead, restoring to vibrancy, bringing into public view, reanimating… Tonia Sutherland does just this for the concept of the black body in the digital afterlife, through a critique of the archive, the HeLa cells legacy, holograms of entertainers, and emergent AI. An absolute honour to host this episode on an early read of Sutherland’s new

Neural, with Théo Lepage-Richer and Ranjodh Singh Dhaliwal
n this episode, I have a truly delightful conversation about neural networks with Théo Lepage-Richer and Ranjodh Singh Dhaliwal. We go through the many ways that the body gets ‘technologized’ and technology gets ‘biologized’ and how and why these conceptualization happen in specific historical and political contexts, and why they matter — and more than neural networks themselves, maybe? You’ll lea

Refusal, with Blair Attard-Frost
In this episode Blair Attard-Frost and I discuss AI value & supply chains, AI policies and strategies in Canada and how queer and trans theories can help inform (and refuse) how we think and feel about AI governance. We also discuss the role of creative writing, as outlet and way to reach audiences that might be compelled by “AI”. Recorded May 9, 2023. Released June 12, 2023.The Ethics of AI B

Imaginaries, with Fenwick McKelvey
A recent open letter by Future of Life Institute calling for a six-month ban on AI development has received widespread attention online. Fenwick McKelvey and I discuss the hyped-up ideas from tech leaders about “powerful digital minds” and how fear of AI functions as a marketing tool. We also go over regulation and policy initiatives in Canada. Recorded April 25, 2023. Released May 30, 2023.Let’s

Chatter, with David M. Berry, Peggy Weil, Arthur Schwarz, Mark Marino and Jeff Shrager
In this episode I speak with some members of the ELIZANGEN project: David M. Berry, Peggy Weil, Arthur Schwarz, Mark Marino and Jeff Shrager. ELIZA is the first “chatterbots”, emerging in the 1960’s. Listen to our conversation to learn more about finding the code for ELIZA in the archives, building various iterations of the bot, and how it helps us think about AI like Chat-GPT, today. Recorded Apr

Risk, with Émile P. Torres
Ever wonder what longtermism is and how it’s come to be such a big influence over the tech world? I speak with Émile P. Torres about all things connecting AI hype, ideologies about future humans, big tech’s concentration of power, the idea of human potential (or humanity’s potential) and the idea of moral consequence. Recorded Apr 17, 2023. Released May 10, 2023.Longtermism Hubhttps://www.longterm

Nostalgia, with Grafton Tanner
What is nostalgia? A memory? A feeling? A weapon?? Tune in to my conversation with Grafton Tanner about the relationship between tech, nostalgia, retrobate and much more! Recorded Mar 31, 2023. Released April 30, 2023.Grafton Tannerhttps://graftontanner.com/ Yesterday Once Morehttps://reallifemag.com/yesterday-once-more/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Flesh, with Maya Indira Ganesh
Maya and I talk about [digital] flesh, [digital] intimacies, and how writing in and out of academic contexts helps us feel through our best ideas. We wonder what we owe the world in terms of representation and identity, and whether it’s okay to offer up an altered version of ourselves. Recorded Mar 30, 2023. Released April 20, 2023.Between Flesh: Tech Degrees of Separationhttps://13thgwangjubienn
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